Today, Vitus Spehar, Dr. Leslie Dobson and I pulled together threads that most people are treating separately, but really shouldn’t be.
On the surface, it starts with Bill and Hillary Clinton’s testimony before the House Oversight Committee. We know that Bill and Epstein were pals but in her written testimony she writes “I do not recall ever encountering Mr. Epstein. I never flew on his plane or visited ihis island, homes or offices. I have nothing to add to that.”
But what about Ghislaine Maxwell – his partner in crime who was invited to Chelsea’s wedding and the Clinton Global Initiative?
It’s a reminder that you don’t have to interact with Epstein directly — but in other uncomfortable ways. And with Epstein everything is about proximity.
Our conversation took a sharper turn in the missing files about President Trump and why the DOJ withheld them.
And then we dove head first into the growing online movement — especially in parts of the manosphere — insisting that Jeffrey Epstein wasn’t actually a predator, who trafficked girls and women. That the narrative is being perpetrated by people who do not know the case. The way it is misunderstand and framed is dangerous. It’s not just revisionism, it’s a psychological case study.
Forensic psychologist Leslie Dobson unpacked what’s really happening — not just with Epstein’s behavior, but with the public’s reaction to it.
Why do people resist labeling powerful men as predators? Why does wealth and status distort moral judgment? And why are some communities actively trying to rewrite what happened?
This isn’t just about who attended which party or who flew on which plane. It’s about power, narrative control, and how elite ecosystems protect themselves — sometimes long after the facts are established.
We covered all of it. The politics, the psychology and nd the dangerous reframing happening in real time.
Watch the full conversation here.
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