Two-time California candidate Michael Shellenberger on elite accountability, tech censorship, immigration enforcement, and what it would actually take to fix the Golden State.
Who is this guy? Downplaying the plight of these children? Bring up grooming gangs and he goes straight to the British case highlighted by the extreme right.
Not a fan of dissing California, especially after getting these facts from Gavin Newsom
Here are some cold, hard FACTS you will never see on the network.
California recently went from the sixth largest economy in the world to the fourth largest.
💰 Middle class families in California pay LESS in taxes than in states like Texas, Oklahoma, and Arkansas.
📈 California has seen population increases over the past few years. Republicans need to update their talking points.
🔴 Life expectancy, infant mortality, deaths of despair, wages and uninsured rates are all worse off in red states.
🚨 For Greg Abbott and Texas Republicans talking trash: California is the fourth largest economy in the WORLD. We contribute $83 billion to the federal government while Texas takes $71 billion.
🥇 California is #1 in manufacturing, #1 in farming, #1 in new business starts, #1 in tech and VC investments, #1 in Fortune 500 companies, and the #1 public higher education system in the country.
🔬We have more scientists, engineers, and Nobel laureates than any other state in this country.
🐰 Republicans fixate on Bad Bunny to fan the flames of culture wars in order to distract from the fact that on health, wealth, and economic outcomes they are failing.
Face and cleavage passed off as intelligent journalism? Shellenburger is polite but she is pushing beyond propriety.She brings nothing to the table here.Bring the goods or be quiet.Enough of the self aggrandizement.
That was hard to listen to after he equated some associates of e Epstein as being victims of a potential “me too” cancellation, but, I made it to the end and then I heard a phrase very similar to “ there are good people on both sides.” Interference or not, that is not a basis to shoot someone on the street who posed no imminent harm. The videos do not lie. That being said, I do appreciate that you bring people on that aren’t simply an echo chamber.
Not a fan of Michael Shellenberger. He kept calling these survivors women. In whose circles are 13-16 year olds women, or even young!!! women. WTH??? Children. Full stop! And once he started ranting against CA, I was done. His statement that the progressives were the ones deinstitutionalize mental illness is an out and out lie. It was Reagan who closed the mental institutions and put the mentally ill people on the streets. I was in CA at that time. Am glad he is not running for governor.
California is indeed, the Golden State. We are not without problems but the bad is outweighed by the good. We pay for what we get through our taxes: clean air, water, cities and farmland. Best university system in the world. Big proponents of democracy and anti Christian Nationalist. Strong Democratic party, legislature and governor. Free and fair elections, no shenanigans. There's much to be proud of and most of us are.
Thank you for this discussion and for being able to confront Michael's beliefs that are off the mark on several subjects. Reagon was the president that defunded social systems for mental health needs, not thprogressives. He is obviously right leaning which to me is offensive at this time in history. Thank you for your humanity, Tara!! I also do not believe that California is more conservative leaning. We are the progressive state although we can have conservative beliefs which to me means, we want integrity, justice and care for humanity.
I disagree that there were “bad actors on both sides” in Minnesota. ICE was deployed aggressively and cruelly in a BLUE American city for optics. The citizens, God Bless them! were trying to non-violently protest expressly because the action by the president and DHS were so blatantly corrupt of value. They were not after the “worst of the worst”. If they were they would have coordinated WITH Minneapolis Police at the REQUEST of the Mayor and Governor. They intentionally did not. They strove to be belligerent and provocative hoping to ignite a violent backlash from the citizens of a Blue City. After two murders of white people, finally the president noticed the bad optics. Yet, Pam Bondi still delivered the real reason for all of the mayhem: “The surge will stop if you give me your voter rolls.” To side with the gop/conservatives on this is simply an egregious error of judgement.
Border Patrol ICE etc are NOT law enforcement, they're thugs sent to foment violence. If they were law enforcement they wouldn't be masked and carrying war weapons.
Thank you both for sharing interesting and important information. I've become a bit interested in the fact that Maxwell's father, whose drowning has always seemed to me suspicious, introduced her to Epstein. Her father wasn't "above board" and represents one more reason why I'm beginning to think that this whole thing has gone on much longer and been far more wide-spread than it seems on the surface.
If there's supposedly any concern for businesses and business owners, why are so many people being basically kidnapped when they're actually in the appropriate building with paperwork in hand, ready to complete their immigration process?
This guy was awful. Trying to equate the so-called “cancellation” of Epstein’s associates with #MeToo is complete false equivalence, especially when most of his closest friends have faced little to no real consequences. And dismissing the possibility of a trafficking ring as merely “bad behavior,” ignoring all of the evidence to the contrary, is disgusting and irresponsible.
I’m exhausted by the number of men who speak on Epstein with so little seriousness or understanding. Just stop.
As always, you handled it well and held his feet to the fire, Tara. Thank you for your incredible coverage. ❤️
Who is this guy? Downplaying the plight of these children? Bring up grooming gangs and he goes straight to the British case highlighted by the extreme right.
What wishy-washy mealy-mouth.
He’s very good friends with Peter Thiel, He’s also part of the UAP disclosure.
He is steering people away from Epstein ties to Thiel, Trump and over half the admin.
This guy is tight with Peter Thiel… a lot of people in UAP disclosure are. They want the tech.
Not a fan of dissing California, especially after getting these facts from Gavin Newsom
Here are some cold, hard FACTS you will never see on the network.
California recently went from the sixth largest economy in the world to the fourth largest.
💰 Middle class families in California pay LESS in taxes than in states like Texas, Oklahoma, and Arkansas.
📈 California has seen population increases over the past few years. Republicans need to update their talking points.
🔴 Life expectancy, infant mortality, deaths of despair, wages and uninsured rates are all worse off in red states.
🚨 For Greg Abbott and Texas Republicans talking trash: California is the fourth largest economy in the WORLD. We contribute $83 billion to the federal government while Texas takes $71 billion.
🥇 California is #1 in manufacturing, #1 in farming, #1 in new business starts, #1 in tech and VC investments, #1 in Fortune 500 companies, and the #1 public higher education system in the country.
🔬We have more scientists, engineers, and Nobel laureates than any other state in this country.
🐰 Republicans fixate on Bad Bunny to fan the flames of culture wars in order to distract from the fact that on health, wealth, and economic outcomes they are failing.
🗳️ When Democrats go on OFFENSE, we WIN.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER!
Gavin Newsom
I live in California. It’s not broken. Come talk to real people out here instead of a talking head, please 🙏
Right
LOL
“Not voting” in the 2024 election tells me everything I need to know about this guy’s morals and ethics.
Face and cleavage passed off as intelligent journalism? Shellenburger is polite but she is pushing beyond propriety.She brings nothing to the table here.Bring the goods or be quiet.Enough of the self aggrandizement.
Garbage
Yay!
Agreed, this is sketchy. It clearly starts from the assumption that Cali is broken and broadcasting it along with a bunch of Epstein talk. Yikes
That was hard to listen to after he equated some associates of e Epstein as being victims of a potential “me too” cancellation, but, I made it to the end and then I heard a phrase very similar to “ there are good people on both sides.” Interference or not, that is not a basis to shoot someone on the street who posed no imminent harm. The videos do not lie. That being said, I do appreciate that you bring people on that aren’t simply an echo chamber.
Not a fan of Michael Shellenberger. He kept calling these survivors women. In whose circles are 13-16 year olds women, or even young!!! women. WTH??? Children. Full stop! And once he started ranting against CA, I was done. His statement that the progressives were the ones deinstitutionalize mental illness is an out and out lie. It was Reagan who closed the mental institutions and put the mentally ill people on the streets. I was in CA at that time. Am glad he is not running for governor.
Mr Conservative Morals is sure ready to whitewash a lot of immoral behavior. Thank you for standing up to this pig.
Alex Pretti did NOTHING to antagonize ICE. Get your facts straight, Shellenberger!
California is indeed, the Golden State. We are not without problems but the bad is outweighed by the good. We pay for what we get through our taxes: clean air, water, cities and farmland. Best university system in the world. Big proponents of democracy and anti Christian Nationalist. Strong Democratic party, legislature and governor. Free and fair elections, no shenanigans. There's much to be proud of and most of us are.
Thank you for this discussion and for being able to confront Michael's beliefs that are off the mark on several subjects. Reagon was the president that defunded social systems for mental health needs, not thprogressives. He is obviously right leaning which to me is offensive at this time in history. Thank you for your humanity, Tara!! I also do not believe that California is more conservative leaning. We are the progressive state although we can have conservative beliefs which to me means, we want integrity, justice and care for humanity.
I disagree that there were “bad actors on both sides” in Minnesota. ICE was deployed aggressively and cruelly in a BLUE American city for optics. The citizens, God Bless them! were trying to non-violently protest expressly because the action by the president and DHS were so blatantly corrupt of value. They were not after the “worst of the worst”. If they were they would have coordinated WITH Minneapolis Police at the REQUEST of the Mayor and Governor. They intentionally did not. They strove to be belligerent and provocative hoping to ignite a violent backlash from the citizens of a Blue City. After two murders of white people, finally the president noticed the bad optics. Yet, Pam Bondi still delivered the real reason for all of the mayhem: “The surge will stop if you give me your voter rolls.” To side with the gop/conservatives on this is simply an egregious error of judgement.
kick this guy off, Tara.
There were girls and boys. Straight pedophilia. Look at the redacted videos.
Border Patrol ICE etc are NOT law enforcement, they're thugs sent to foment violence. If they were law enforcement they wouldn't be masked and carrying war weapons.
Thanks for another awesome discussion.
You are at the top of the mountain, Ms. Palmeri!
Thank you both for sharing interesting and important information. I've become a bit interested in the fact that Maxwell's father, whose drowning has always seemed to me suspicious, introduced her to Epstein. Her father wasn't "above board" and represents one more reason why I'm beginning to think that this whole thing has gone on much longer and been far more wide-spread than it seems on the surface.
If there's supposedly any concern for businesses and business owners, why are so many people being basically kidnapped when they're actually in the appropriate building with paperwork in hand, ready to complete their immigration process?
Ugh - could barely get through the first several minutes of this pedophile apologist. He is the exact reason this went on for so long. Gross.
This guy was awful. Trying to equate the so-called “cancellation” of Epstein’s associates with #MeToo is complete false equivalence, especially when most of his closest friends have faced little to no real consequences. And dismissing the possibility of a trafficking ring as merely “bad behavior,” ignoring all of the evidence to the contrary, is disgusting and irresponsible.
I’m exhausted by the number of men who speak on Epstein with so little seriousness or understanding. Just stop.
As always, you handled it well and held his feet to the fire, Tara. Thank you for your incredible coverage. ❤️